Suggestion Nerf the Rangers

Hi all,
Firstly I don't hate rangers, I do have one but .. they need to get nerfed at block rate departament, it's just to high for a ranger to have more block per stat then a dragonknight, that is just unreal.
Ranger's speciality should be long range strikes not high block, that should be dragonknight speciality so you basicle broke the game with that.
Ranger on 1335 has 61% block rate and block more then me on 2100 or 68%. How is that posible? That is a big number diference! Anyway this did remind me why I did not play your game for 2 months and am gonna quit again, couse I just have a feeling that your not gonna lisen and your not gonna do anything so the rangers block will stay way over where it should be. Very unfer to every dragonknight in game.
Poor job ...

 

Is the ranger and your dragonknight the same level, because the percentage depends on the level. For example I have a 8 level hero with around 900 and it counts it as 80% the maximum

 

Hi Master0fpuppets :

Block rate and Blocked damage absorption coefficients are the same for all classes
1335 = 58,18% for ANY class

EDIT: if you compare at same level of course of course ...

 

It is same for all classes ...

 

compared @ level 45
Ranger has the advantige of strike distance over dragon knight so it would be logical that dragon knight have more block rate then any other class since he is a meele attack class and not a long range class as a ranger. What's even more unlogical is that ranger gets more block per 10 block then a dragon knight and he does not even have a skill for bloking like dragon knight have!?
So since the ranger class has it all, why not just delete dragon knight class from game? There is no point of it since ranger can block as much as dragon knight or event better.

 

This thread is hilarious!

 

@MasterOfPuppets

Stop whining and do your homework please!
DK is by far the class with most block! Ever heard of "chance" and how it is used and calculated compared to observations?

Like BigBongo said, this thread is hilarious!

 

I did my homework. Did you do yours? From the looks of it, you did not.

 

Block rate is the same for everyone, DK's have a skill to increase block, and you're saying that because rangers have a distance attack they have an unfair advantage if their block is the same as the other 3 classes.

Should we nerf Rangers, or any other class for that matter? Let me think, uhhhh, hmmmmm, NO!!

 

Actually, he claims that rangers has higher blockrate than other classes compared to amount in numbers.

Here he is just making an observation. The funny thing about observations, is that the second outcome has nothing to do with the first. Which means he could just have been unlucky.

All in all, this thread is made because MasterOfPubbets made som observations while he was in a "bad" luck.

Maybe also because he has a hard time in 1vs1 against rangers, and thus starts to believe that the whole class is OP.


It isn´t rocket-science, to find out that DK´s DOES have the highest bloackrate of all classes, thanks to lv 30 passive skill.

And when it says, that a DK has 68% chance of blocking, and a rangers has 61%, then why question it? The whole system is lying about the numbers?



... Are we ever gonna stop discussing class-balance? All classes has pros and cons.


See ya!

 

No, No, No!
Ranger has more block then a DragonKnight with a +40% block rate skill inabled. How hard is it for you to get that? 0.o

 

Maybe if you were to explain what you are trying to say so that the rest of us get it, then we can participate. The fact is as Masamune has stated that all classes are the same. You can't dispute that. The math proves it over and over.

Your 40% increase skill is not added to the overall percentage it is multiplied by your base number to get a new percentage. So, although I would like to discuss the idea with you, if you can't explain it so we understand then well all just have to disagree.

 

I'd like to provide master of puppets with an explanation of the passive skill for 40% block rate.

The skill takes what base block rate of you shield and adds 40% more to any modifiers that are on the shield. For an example if your shield has a BASE block rate of 500 and a modifier of +60% block rate you will see 1000 block rate and not 1120 that you would think. Honestly I thought that also. So a Ranger with a 60% block rate buckler will be the same as DK with 20% block rate.

-Edit-

One exception are the vender items that have a + block rate on them. Since these items lack a % they upgrade with level and are subject to the 40% block rate bonus.

 

ever funny hey...im playing for fun..make as good as possible, spellweaver....not really responding to anything...just that lots of issues around all theses chars who has what wawawa...i love reading it all...sure isnt how i feel..im so old school everything in this game is fun..great job dso..for even having it..too bad the dude above cant video game more like i do rather than complain..when i started to playvideo games ..decades ago it was wayy different..this decade these games rock..i wont mention the other s ok..just that i deleted them..to let DSO take over...

 

Interesting how many players in game how play with rangers agree with me that the block rate on them is to much and there for is in conflict with dragon knight class. And all of you are dissagree? Let me ges, you like to stay OP so it would be easy to kill everything with your high damage and have dragon knight like block rate at the same time.

@krom, this dude has everything btw.

 

7% difference isn't much in my opinion, and remember it is 'chance' based so it's purely luck.

 

Trust me mate, when it comes to block even 2% difference can mean a lot, 7% is huge difference.
Ranger: 1335 Block Rate = 61%
Dragon Knight: 1500 Block Rate = 61%

 

Well, i have played DK for 2 years and 11 months now... And i see no reason to nerf rangers when i PvP against them. I haven´t used more than 100 dollars on this game, so that isn´t the reason.

ehm, NOPE! Where the hell do you get your information? Both ranger and DK gets 60,99% blockchance at 1500!

 

Form a friend who is ranger. Mind you language btw.

 

... all this mess because you heard something from a friend...

Well, either you misunderstood something, or your friend is damn wrong or joking with you. If you noticed it, there is some very expeirenced players among those who answered you. You are wrong. All classes get the same in chances compared to xxxx number.

Or do you think that you are right and all others are wrong? You can also try this http://drakensang.optimizer.free.fr/Test/ made by Masamune56. It shows that both DK and ranger get 60,99% from 1500 blockrate. If it where wrong, wouldn´t some ranger tell Masamune56 that he had made som wrong calculations? A lot of people has already put some effort in helping him sorting out bugs by testing and reporting.


BTW, sry about my language if it gets a bit offending, but all of this is hilarious!

Time for a Mod to close the thread if you ask me.